Question: Multisample DMR calling
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4.4 years ago by
Aerval280 wrote:

Hi everyone,

does anyone of you have recommendations for inter-multisample DMR (differentially methylated region) calling. I have WGBS methylation data for multiple cell populations and want to identify DMR specific for any group of them. For example DMRs specific for Lung and Heart in difference to Skin + DMR specific for Lung in difference to Heart and Skin + DMR specific to Heart in difference to Skin and Lung. For more populations you obviously get more comparisons. Now are most DMR callers only for pairwise comparisons. DSS-general and RadMeth offer group wise comparisons which seems nice but would need all pair-wise groupings and especially always includes all samples. Are there any alternatives?

Alternatively, we are currently doing all pairwise comparisons, then try and merge overlapping DMR and later reassociate the DMR generated this way to different cell types (currently via kmeans but looking into other things). Unfortunatly, I have to assume to lose information that way when a DMR is part specific to one cell type and part specific to multiple cell types. If anyone has suggestions or solved similar problems I'd love to hear some input?

Thank you,

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ADD COMMENTlink modified 3.3 years ago by hongbo91920 • written 4.4 years ago by Aerval280

Please avoid the use of abbreviations, definitely without explaining them.

ADD REPLYlink written 4.4 years ago by WouterDeCoster45k
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4.4 years ago by
Devon Ryan98k
Freiburg, Germany
Devon Ryan98k wrote:

Give metilene a go, I've had some nice experiences with it.

Nothing does exactly what you want for a few reasons. For grouped comparisons (e.g., DMRs between skin and both heart and lung) you can just put heart and lung together in a group. This presumes you don't consider cases where heart, lung, and skin have 100%, 0% and 50% methylation, respectively, to be DMRs, of course.

ADD COMMENTlink written 4.4 years ago by Devon Ryan98k

Thanks, I did not no metilene and will look into it.

Yeah, I presumed so, thats why I asked whether anyone has developed a solution for it. Thanks anyways.

ADD REPLYlink written 4.4 years ago by Aerval280

Hi Devon I have downloaded the software metilene, but I have not found the data type of input file, could you please send me an example for the details of input data format ? my email, thank you in advance.

ADD REPLYlink written 4.4 years ago by 3318850300
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3.3 years ago by
hongbo91920 wrote:

Hi Aerval, we have developed a new software (SMART-BS-Seq) for de novo identification of DMRs from various BS-Seq data including WGBS. I think this software is what you are looking for. SMART-BS-Seq can identify the group-specific DMRs across multiple groups without pairwise comparisons. Detailed information can be found at Best wishes! :)

ADD COMMENTlink written 3.3 years ago by hongbo91920

Thanks, that looks interesting. I am not working on that particular project anymore but will forward your link to the people still working on it.

ADD REPLYlink written 3.3 years ago by Aerval280
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