Time scaled tree with IQTree giving off looking branch length
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SushiRoll ▴ 140

Hi everyone!

I'm having some weird results using IQTree to build a time-scaled tree. I have used the tool before but this is my first time doing this type of analysis. I have a set of 80 E. coli which I have submitted to an SNP analysis. I have now a core SNP alignment that I have run through Gubbins to remove recombination sites. This alignment I fed it to IQTree and used the time reconstruction like this:

iqtree -s alignment.fasta --date date.tsv

Where date.tsv is a two-column file with sample name and isolation date (Between 2012 and 2020).

I took the generated tree to IToL and plotted the branch lengths as time and this is (a fragment of) what came out:

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As you can see the dates seem to be extremely large, plus shorter branches have a longer time distance. I wonder if I'm misinterpreting the whole thing or if doing an SNP alignment is simply too much since it will find too many differences.

Any help would be greatly welcome.

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cfos4698 ★ 1.1k

Did you remove invariant (constant) sites from the SNP alignment? If so, you should probably also be specifying an ascertainment bias correction. See: http://www.iqtree.org/doc/iqtree-doc.pdf#page=158.20

An ascertainment bias correction (+ASC) model (Lewis, 2001) should be applied if the
alignment does not contain constant sites (such as morphological or SNPs data). 

For example:
• MK+ASC: For morphological data.
• GTR+ASC: For SNPs data.
+ASC will correct the likelihood conditioned on variable sites. Without +ASC, the branch
lengths might be overestimated.
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Hey cfos! Thanks for the reply! I did apply the ascertainment correction model, in fact I applied GTR+F+ASC for this tree. I'm wondering if it has to do with the way I'm visualising the tree ...

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