Forum: (Closed) Funding problem - salary scale - CNRS
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4 months ago by
anonymous20
anonymous20 wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am here to discuss about a founding problem I am having and I heard a lot of post-docs had before, but I couldn't find any testimony or tips.

My problem is the following and it is very simple. I got lucky to obtain my own funding from a funding agency, the name of which I can't reveal at this time. Of course I was thrilled and few days after the beginning of my contract the funding agency told me the money has been transfer to my institute. Then, I got my first pay check and I had the unpleasant surprise to notice a difference of ~2000euros (before taxes) between what the funding agency was supposed to give me and what the institute was giving me.

Obviously I was surprised and when I asked for reasons it seems the institute has some salary scale and they put me on those scale instead of giving me the money from the funding agency. And obviously they are keeping the rest for themselves.

However, this isn't true for all post-doctoral fellowships. Another post-doc in the same institute with a Marie-Curie fellowship isn't on those salary scale. Right now my PI (which support me 100%) and I are still in the middle of the discussion and I am looking for person that have a similar problem to help me find my way out of this trap.

The institute I am fighting with is the French institute: CNRS. I have nothing against them, but I think our work is hard enough to do research, get funding without also needing to fight for the money we are owed.

ADD COMMENTlink modified 4 months ago by Devon Ryan80k • written 4 months ago by anonymous20

Hello anonymous!

We believe that this post does not fit the main topic of this site.

This is not a bioinformatics question though I am sure it is an important consideration to you and for many who participate here. I am going to close this post. You may want to find a different forum to post this. If other mods feel differently and/or there are compelling comments that justify re-opening the question we can do so.

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ADD REPLYlink modified 4 months ago • written 4 months ago by genomax49k

This would be a good question for the academia stackexchange, I think.

ADD REPLYlink written 4 months ago by Devon Ryan80k

N.B., I'm in Germany, where things likely work a bit different than in France.

We have a number of post-docs on Marie Curie fellowships. For these, they receive the payments themselves directly from the Fellowship, the money does not get routed through the institute at all. If there is something in France equivalent to the German "Betriebsrat" ("Works council" in English, not that such a thing exists in the US where I'm from), then I strongly encourage you to contact them immediately.

I also encourage you to contact the funder directly, as it's likely they can further advise you on the legality of all of this. It may also be the case that you're simply understanding the numbers differently than they are (e.g., at least here, some grants turn out to be tax-free income, in which cases the net income is lower while the gross income is higher). The funder can help clarify this, since this is likely not the first time such questions have arisen.

ADD REPLYlink written 4 months ago by Devon Ryan80k

You should be talking with legal counsel at your institute and/or the funding agency. While what your institute is doing sounds dodgy there may be policies in place that require/allow them to do so. If such a policy does not exist then they would need to put one in place quickly.

That said, I wish for you to get the best outcome in this case.

ADD REPLYlink modified 4 months ago • written 4 months ago by genomax49k
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