error while using edgeR( Negative counts not allowed)

Question: error while using edgeR( Negative counts not allowed)

5 months ago by

deeksha3696 • 10 wrote:

I am doing an RNAseq analysis. (using edgeR) I am loading my data for differential analysis, my data is of normalized gene expression(FPKM). I am now just trying to make DEGList object but, it is showing "Negative counts not allowed".

I have removed all negative values from the data, it is still showing the error(( Negative counts not allowed).

Please suggest what should i do. thank you!!

Command:

dgeFull <- DGEList(y, group = sampleInfo$condition)
Error: Negative counts not allowed

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modified 5 months ago by zx8754 ♦ 7.8k • written 5 months ago by deeksha3696 • 10

5 months ago by

WouterDeCoster ♦ 40k

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WouterDeCoster ♦ 40k wrote:

my data is of normalized gene expression(FPKM).

You need raw counts for edgeR. Don't use any normalization.

ADD COMMENT • link written 5 months ago by WouterDeCoster ♦ 40k

thanks from where can i get the raw counts

ADD REPLY • link written 5 months ago by deeksha3696 • 10

Download the data from NCBI or directly from ENA ( Fast download of FASTQ files and metadata from the European Nucleotide Archive (ENA) ).

ADD REPLY • link modified 5 months ago • written 5 months ago by ATpoint ♦ 19k

From where did you get the fpkm counts...?

We are bad at reading your mind so you'll have to elaborate.

ADD REPLY • link written 5 months ago by WouterDeCoster ♦ 40k

I downloaded the fpkm values from NCBI GEO DATA SET

ADD REPLY • link written 5 months ago by deeksha3696 • 10

FPKM values are not suitable for statistics, this is a recurrent discussion. See also edgeR user's guide, end of 2.3 on page 12. You need raw read counts, if they don't provide them at GEO, you can redo the analysis: download fastq files -> align them to reference e.g. with STAR -> counts reads with e.g. featureCounts

ADD REPLY • link modified 5 months ago • written 5 months ago by Benn ♦ 7.1k

While I don't completely agree that FPKM can't be used for any statistics (and I think it can be useful for visualization), it is true that you need raw counts for edgeR (and most RNA-Seq Bioconductor differential expression packages).

I also agree re-processing raw data can be frequently be helpful. Even if you end up with a similar result, you should understand the analysis process better and be more confident in your results :)

ADD REPLY • link written 5 months ago by Charles Warden ♦ 7.0k

Please add a link to the dataset you are using. It may be necessary to download the reads and process those yourself.

ADD REPLY • link written 5 months ago by WouterDeCoster ♦ 40k

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