Question: How do you cite a tool that doesn't have a publication?
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2.3 years ago by
novice820
United States
novice820 wrote:

FASTQC, for example, doesn't seem to have a publication associated with it. How would you cite it?

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ADD COMMENTlink modified 2.2 years ago by Emily_Ensembl15k • written 2.3 years ago by novice820
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2.3 years ago by
Bioaln260
France
Bioaln260 wrote:

I suggest you use the author, date and link.

ADD COMMENTlink written 2.3 years ago by Bioaln260
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How does this look?

Andrews S. (2010). FastQC: a quality control tool for high throughput sequence data. Available online at: http://www.bioinformatics.babraham.ac.uk/projects/fastqc

ADD REPLYlink written 2.3 years ago by novice820
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Exactly - I've seen links used to cite blog posts; they should be useful for tools too.

ADD REPLYlink written 2.3 years ago by Ram15k
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2.2 years ago by
Emily_Ensembl15k
EMBL-EBI
Emily_Ensembl15k wrote:

Just to say, thank you for wanting to cite tools. From our investigations, we've found that over 2/3 of the papers that mention Ensembl do not cite our papers. No idea how many more than that use our stuff and don't even bother to mention us. It's as if people think that building a bioinformatic database or tool is not real science, so doesn't need acknowledgement. In science, citations are currency, and using someone's work without citing them is essentially theft.

ADD COMMENTlink written 2.2 years ago by Emily_Ensembl15k
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2/3rds of my wetlab work never resulted in authorship either, and just like writing a tool i'm talking about months of work. It's certainly a lot easier to use FastQC or Ensembl datasets without acknowledgement than a BSc/Masters/PhD student -- particularly it if there's no 'proof' of usage in the paper ("The quality of our data... ...looked good based on a variety of metrics / ...compared favorably to other publicly available datasets.") -- however, I think it must have been Socrates who once said: "Don't hate the player, hate the game". More and more these days Science appears to be a 0-sum game - particularly to young scientists who after their PhD have only a 1 in 200 chance of becoming an independent researcher. Under those conditions, a mentality of "take as much credit as possible, and only hand it out where absolutely necessary" is an inevitability. I wish we could go back to the old-days, but I think it's more realistic that tool/service developers forget about asking nicely for people to do the right thing, and instead think of ways to ensure citations where tools where used and punishments if they don't. Alternatively, research like yours showing the disparity between use and citations needs to be done to really make it known how valuable services like Ensembl are to life sciences.

ADD REPLYlink written 2.2 years ago by John12k
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Great point. However the reviewers of journals can also comment on the references. In principle they can use this power to enforce everyone to give proper credit. Is it the case? I don't know. So researchers are just part of the whole story..

ADD REPLYlink written 2.2 years ago by Ibrahim Tanyalcin880
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But if 2/3 of the people writing papers think they don't need to cite databases or tools, then a similar 2/3 of reviewers probably have the same attitude. Or maybe 80% of both groups think you don't need to cite, and only by the small number of referees who think it's important pointing it out do we get the citation rate as high as 1/3.

ADD REPLYlink modified 2.2 years ago • written 2.2 years ago by Emily_Ensembl15k

Thank you for providing tools for all of us! I have nothing but respect for the people behind good, open source software.

ADD REPLYlink written 2.2 years ago by novice820

Note that journals often restrict the number of references included in the manuscript, making the "standard" tools/databases/repositories such as Ensembl the first victim.

ADD REPLYlink written 15 months ago by timdemeyerugent0

I keep telling people this because having the citations also assists others in reproducing analyses. Unfortunately, many journal editors and reviewers don't want to know about the bioinformatics methodologies and, thus, this information is frequently overlooked in published work.

ADD REPLYlink written 4 months ago by Kevin Blighe21k
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2.3 years ago by
genomax49k
United States
genomax49k wrote:

You would cite the web link for the tool. Simon (author of FastQC) had suggested that in the past for FastQC.

ADD COMMENTlink modified 2.3 years ago • written 2.3 years ago by genomax49k
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2.3 years ago by
Belgium
Ibrahim Tanyalcin880 wrote:

I would also try to include the DOI into the citation. If the software is in biorxiv, it will already get a doi, else if the software is in Github, the owner of the repository can also acquire one from zenodo (https://zenodo.org/).

ADD COMMENTlink modified 15 months ago by Ram15k • written 2.3 years ago by Ibrahim Tanyalcin880
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